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First Look: Jason Lollar on Magnets and Output

by Adam Moore

Jason Lollar answers our questions about Alnico vs. Ceramic and pickup output


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In the upcoming December issue, we sit down with Jason Lollar and talk about everything from how he got started in the business, his key to the perfect P-90, debunking pickup myths and more. Here's a teaser to whet your appetite, as we ask Jason about Alnico magnets and output.

What is it about an Alnico magnet that makes it a near-standard for guitar pickups? Can you construct a great pickup with ceramic magnets?

Remember this is old technology, so before Alnico the magnets were these huge horseshoe or great big bars like you see on old Rickenbackers. The next “permanent magnets” were Alnico. By the time electric guitar design was really getting strong – the late forties to the fifties – Alnico was the primary magnet used. You don’t start seeing ceramics on guitars until the early sixties. So part of this is traditional; Alnico magnet pickup designs are what we have become used to as a standard of good tone.

Alnico and ceramics have different magnetic and inductive properties. In the early sixties, when ceramics became available and some guitar companies used them (probably for their cost savings, which is approximately 30 percent the cost of Alnico), they left the overall pickup design the same and did not bother to accommodate for the difference in magnets. The sound was thinner and overly bright with less dynamic range.

Of course, you can make good sounding ceramic pickups; I have one stock model that uses them – the Chicago Steel. I sometimes use them on custom items also if there is some size restriction.

What about players that evaluate pickups strictly by their output levels? Is there a problem today with people buying replacement pickups that are entirely too hot for their setup?

You can’t always compare resistance between pickups and expect the higher resistance to have more power; all that tells you is... well, not much. If you know the diameter of the wire, the resistance will tell you how many feet of wire are on the pickup. The amount of turns around the pole pieces is primarily what increases output – more turns equal more output. Of course, the magnetic field strength and the core material used also affects this, but if one pickup has a longer coil than another – let’s say a Jazz Bass and a Strat – the Jazz Bass will read higher because it has a longer coil of wire, but it may not have more output. There are other technical points we could go on about – thicker or thinner wire, how air temperature affects resistance – but more importantly is how the pickup couples with the amp. There are a lot of technical points about this but let’s keep it simple.

One thing you’ll find occasionally on cheap guitars are really hot pickups. For the uninitiated buying their first guitar, imagine plugging a $5000 Gibson into a cheap practice amp and then plugging in a Brand X with a hot ceramic pickup. “Wow, this one is louder, it’s got to be better, right?” Really though, if you listen to old Fender amps, like a Tweed Deluxe for example, when you plug in a Tele or a Strat and crank it up, it will sound fat and really detailed at the same time. Plug a Les Paul in and it gets overly muddy and distorted – maybe you like that, but it makes it really hard to hear what you’re playing from the audience’s perspective. A better Fender amp for a Les Paul would be a Super Reverb – much less midrange from the amp. Your Les Paul already has plenty of mids, so why add more to muddy up the tone? Also, the Super Reverb has more treble available, which humbuckers often lack, plus the amp can handle the extra bass the humbucking pickup generates, so it stays tighter and clear on the bottom.

Most people are hip to how different amps will match better with some pickup designs than others, but often people just getting into electric guitar tone don’t know how to get good tone. The number one rule of thumb is don’t overload the amp too much. Everyone likes at least a little distortion, but if you go too far it becomes muddy. I see a lot of guys in clubs, usually humbucker players, that need to turn the bass down on the amp, turn the volume down a notch because they have a little too much distortion and bass to be heard clearly, and turn the reverb down because there is too much hashing. My idea behind pickup design is if you can’t get a good clean tone, you won’t get a good distorted tone.

Remember to check out the December issue of Premier Guitar for the interview, then check back to premierguitar.com for an extended cut of the interview we couldn't fit in the magazine.

     


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chuck singleton
on 11/21/2008
i love all good guitar tone ... even if it isnt a tone that i want for myself. and "good guitar tone" is a VERY subjective thing , and means different things to different people. you may not be able to put it into words exactly ,but you know it when you hear it. lets all try to think outside the box a little.
chuck singleton
on 11/21/2008
wow ... the "old timers" guitar tone mentality really frustrates me. these blues /rock guys are so close minded . oh well .... no use beating a dead horse , these guys just dont get the fact that these is MORE out there than what they are into. comon guys , think outside the box for once ...will ya ?
Joel G
on 11/12/2008
Well as far as the metal thing goes, I dont hear much good metal tone so I cant comment on it other than to say that a triple rectifier dimed sounds like your playing with mittens on. If you judge good tone on dynamics and articulation I would have to say that most metal tones suck! That being said, there are a few metal players that do have good tone and that may be a result of better playing technique. And there are the exceptions that are masters of the electric Kazoo!!! Guess its all in the eye of the beholder....
guitarboy
on 11/08/2008
Craig Morrison,

You might want to try Jason Lollar's P-90's on your Gibson. I put a pair on an Ibanez AS-73 and it went from being an OK guitar to being one of the best I've ever played. They're awesome!
William Odell
on 11/07/2008
I have met Jason Lollar a number of times and he is a great guy fueled by true passion. More companies should be driven by making great products like his, rather than focusing on glitzy marketing. We could use more like him in this industry.
Jim C
on 11/07/2008
Jason made some great comments. I would also like to point out that as the # of windings increases, so does the inductance, causing an additional limit of high frequencies -depending on the pickup loading. I think Mr Lollar's products would be a good candidate for my 1967 Firebird project
Chuck Singleton
on 11/07/2008
that isnt exactly true ... good tone is good tone , be it "clean" , "blues/rock dirty" , or "metal dirty" .... and a good "metal dirty" tone isnt just a good clean tone with some overdrive or distortion pedal in front of it to push the amp into breakup. perhaps you are talking about the "rock/blues dirty" , if thats what you mean then i agree with you. set the amp to sound good clean then crank the heck out of it and tweak the eq if needed. old rock/blues tone is a different beast than screaming molten metal tone , and the same rules dont always apply.
ArrowDynamics and MelodicGrunge
on 11/07/2008
Davie Allan can make his humbucking pickup sound grungy through a Fender or MusicMan and still pull a beautiful melody out of it.He's a bonified guitar slinger. Been shootin' down punks for over forty years and still knocking 'em dead with his ever progressive playing ability. Jason Lollar said it clear...."My idea behind pickup design is if you can’t get a good clean tone, you won’t get a good distorted tone".That's what the punks don't understand.It seperates the Kings from the subjects.
www.roundtownsound.com
on 11/07/2008
I wonder if I should get that 135 Gibson from 2003 with the P90s and chabge them to 57 buckers?

craig morrison
www.roundtownsound.com
Scott Gregory
on 11/07/2008
Lollar's statement on his design philosophy-You need to get a good clean tone in order to have a good dirty tone-is something I've always felt is correct, and something younger players would do well to wrap their heads around.



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